Friday, August 18, 2006

am i getting too old for mtv?

you know, i've never really had an issue with mtv before. i think it's because i've always been a few (hundred) years older than the people on their shows, so i've never stopped to think about how if i was younger, these shows would affect or influence me. it was actually boyfriend who said something to me that got me thinking about exactly what message it is that mtv sends to its viewers.. young girls in particular.

i watch laguna beach. i'll admit it. i love it. but it also pisses me off. to watch someone get "famous" for being in high school is a true testament to how fucked up our society is. or at least how bored. honestly, what are we lacking that needs to be filled by a freaking 17 year old idiot with bleached teeth whiter than paper, and a tan so fake it's almost painful to look at? and then there's the fake nails and the $100 a pop highlights. and the fancy cars. i realize times have changed and we're also talking about one of the wealthiest communities in the state, but that wasn't my reality when i was in high school. and it most likely be my daughters reality when she's in high school (you know, if i have a daughter). now everyone around the country who watches this show, thinks that is how high school is in california. or that is how high school should be. that's how you should look. how you should act. what you should drive. laguna beach never shows the kids doing homework. it never shows them struggling with anything in regards to school. it NEVER even shows their parents. why aren't their parents more involved? why aren't the parents around when they're throwing parties and drinking in their backyards like they own the place? where are their parents when they're having dates in their houses, and dressing like whores for halloween? at least just show the mom nodding her head in approval or something so i know these kids aren't raising themselves. the only time i've seen any parents is when they're presenting their golden child with yet another expensive gift (surprise, surprise). do viewers not want to see parents? but aren't parents a reality? i mean, good god.. aren't they??? i often find myself asking just where the hell the parents are when i watch that show. they're probably too busy get their own highlights and nails done to be bothered by what their kids are doing.

it's frustrating. it's frustrating that these kids, who are still so young and immature and have tons to learn from life, are being thrust into a spotlight we create for them for NO reason. for doing nothing worth noting. because they're hot? because they cheat on eachother? because they lie? because all of that bullshit is entertaining? i mean, what the hell are we showing here? like i said before, i'm too old to be influenced or changed by what i see these idiots do- but what about the younger viewers.. or the ones their age? what are we teaching them? i understand that all these things would go on in high school with or without it being shown on tv- but aren't we in a way, perpetuating it? by showing girls talking trash about other girls.. and competing with eachother for the same guy.. and being downright harsh and cruel to one another.. aren't we just enflaming a war we should be trying to put out? as if there isn't enough pressure on females in society. now it's totally cool to be a super bitch to someone you don't like because her hair extensions are "too" long? i just don't get it. i mean, i guess part of me does because i watch the damn thing. but the difference is that i realize when they are completely insane and over the top and out of line and just plain have no clue what it's like in the real world. i often want to take the chunky heel of my shoe and beat them upside the head with it. but i refrain because i like my tv too much. :)

i think that mtv has the power to do many good things.. like bring awareness to issues that wouldn't normally reach the youth. but i feel that the majority of their programming is basically the same shit, presented in a different way. to think that my 16 year old neice is watching this and might think some of it is "cool" makes me want to vomit. because it's not cool when you're 16. hell, it's not even okay when you're 16. you know? and while i think that my neice is way too strong minded to be influenced by idiots, there are lots of people who aren't. and it's them i worry for. and i wonder why we keep showing things like this? and then i wonder if it will ever change? and then i get sad when i realize that it probably won't.

41 comments:

Becky said...

probably wont no. but i dont even watch any of that laguna beach or the hills. i can't stand them. i watch these kids and just roll my eyes. they're all so fake and so dramatic and so UNREAL. most people in this country dont live like them. and since this is a "reality" show i just can't do it jenn! my sister loves the show. she's 18. i dunno how much it affects her. i should ask her

norcalgirl28 said...

Unfortunately, for high school kids, the hurt and trashing and downright meaness exists on the computer too. I am told by my neighbors and my friends who have high school age kids that they trash other kids on a regular basis with their "Space". As I understand it is absolutely devastating for the child on the receiving end of these comments because the whole world is reading them, it is not just being said to them "face to face", which would be bad enough, but it wouldn't have an audience.

jen said...

I no longer watch MTV...cuz really...they don't show VIDEOS anymore!!!! And if they do...it's all bitches and ho's and and Pussycat Dolls!
I am probably aging myself...but I remember when the first video played on MTV and how my friends and I would hang out at Chris Urban's house cuz she was the only kid in the hood to get MTV. It was truly non-stop videos...
Now it's just 2 minute porn...and not even good porn! ;)

Miss Britt said...

MTV is also teaching girls that "if he's a good boy, a really really good boy - why not let him lay with you?" which, as a mother to a daughter and a drill team coach - makes me want to scream!!

I know that there are still normal people out there... why don't they ever get on TV? I mean after all - anymore, wouldn't THAT be the "strange and unusual" that draws a crowd?

Piece of Work said...

I totally agree. Those shows are horrendous, and I hate to think that my own daughter will be watching that crap one day. Although, I have to say: the reason those shows are on is because people watch them--even you. If no one watched, they would be cancelled.

Jenn said...

But you see....YOU watch it! (I don't watch that one in particular, but I'm just as guilty) So as long as people find it entertaining and it's making money, it'll stay. Sad but true.

And what's with the daughter thing? Are you preggo and not telling us?

(you know someone had to say it. Tee hee hee)

Stephanie A. said...

This is why I turned off the tv ages ago. Yes, I do watch more "wholesome" things like Gilmore Girls sometimes, but really???? I'd rather be hanging out with Adam or reading or whatever.

I agree with other posters, as long as someone watches that crap, it's going to get airplay. And not only that, but other networks are going to look at its success and then try to OUTDO that show with something even more out there and ridiculous. Obnoxious.

Good thing I'm raising Hugo in a bubble, eh?

Meg said...

I've had the same feelings about this channel (plus many others). I don't watch Laguna Beach for the simple fact that I don't care to revisit the high school drama that I once lived through. But I've heard enough about it. I don't even want to know what tv will be like when Squeaks is a teenager. We're not rich by any means, and I don't want the idea in her head that she can't have friends if she doesn't have money. I guess it's really a losing battle, though.

But you can't stop me from watching Flavor of Love on VH1. I love laughing at the crazy women who actually want to date Flav!

Mieke said...

I am completely with you on this one. I was just sitting here watching the new laguna beach and while it is like a guilty pleasure for me, I agree it is ridiculous! I have often wondered, do these kids Have parents?? where the hell are they? the kids are so petty and mean to each other. I always think how glad I am to not have grown up in laguna beach! I fear for my own daughter, although I know that she is not raised anything like these girls. But yet, I still watch! I don't know why.

cj said...

Your headline made me laugh. I have recently asked myself this same question. I came to the conclusion that not only am I too old for Mtv but I am no longer cool.

My stepdaughter is 15 and LOVES watching my super sweet 16. That show makes my skin f'ing crawl. She does find it "desireable" to "be like that" where my husband and I find it appauling. We don't have 50 grand to drop on a car for her next year when she turns 16 and no one else in my neighborhood does either. (that I'm thankful for) What bothers me the MOST is how these kids treat their friends. I could go on for hours about how horrible of an example of life this is - and how it shouldn't be shown on tv. (Or if it is mock the bejesus out of the little pop princess bitch as a lesson.) Ugg....

Jenn - be glad we're too old for Mtv our children and loved ones are much better off for it!

Virginia Belle said...

ok, i don't watch that show, so i have a dumb question-- it it a reality show or not? i can't tell by the previews. oh wait. becky just answered it for me. i am so dumb on fridays.

the way i see shows like this is, i have enough drama in my own life, i don't need to watch other people have drama.

although, i must confess to a Big Brother addiction...

anyway, you should be watching this show and taking notes. one day Blake will be 16 and "going to the library" if you get my drift. i say, use this as a parenting tool.it's giving you the inside scoop about how messed up most kids are today.

this must be why my parents didn't let me watch MTV or Beverly Hills 90210...

and i agree w/Jen--whatever happened to MUSIC TV? last i checked, this was supposed to be where i can watch videos. do they even have them on anymore?? when they do play them, it is the same 10 over and over. grrr...

everyone is making really good points on this post. you and i aren't alone in this, ster. so much of this stuff is crap. sometimes when i'm watching Hogan Knows Best or My Fair Brady, i stop and think, "why am i taking time out of my life to watch this crap?"

but i keep watching! aaargh.

meli. said...

You're not too old, you're too intelligent to watch that drivel.

I have to admit though, I find myself watching shows on MTV like Made and True Life and actually enjoying them. Those at least they show kids stepping out of their comfort zone to try something different or in their own element, dealing with real problems.

It's the shows like LB, Next, and Super Sweet 16 that are the true horror shows. These shows seem to showcase how shallow kids nowaday can be. I know when I was growing up it wasn't cool to whore yourself out for a date, glorify infidelity and backstabbing, or buy friends and belittle them because mom & dad have money to burn.

Madison, fortunately, doesn't watch MTV because it's lame now. And you're right, it's sad to think there are kids out there who don't have somebody in their life discouraging the behavior they are exposed to. The youth of today is doomed to be label-obsessed, fake tan, shallow, and disillusioned about that reality really is.

alison said...

The show is ridiculous and it's on because people watch it. Including me. I don't watch it religiously, but if it's on when I'm looking for something to watch, then I'll tune in. It's entertaining, mostly because that's not how the majority of high school kids are. That's a small group of kids in Laguna Beach---I'm sure that particular high school has some really nice, smart, down-to-earth kids as well, but they just aren't as marketable when it comes to MTV. Like everyone else said, as long as you and I and all the others continue watching it, the show will stay on the air. Cool, I'm entertained.

Self-Proclaimed Supermom said...

MTV was so different in my day (as I stand slumped over with my trusty cane)

Oh I remember Video Killed The Radio Star, Whip It, and of course the B-52's. Oh those were the days.

I think the music today is geared more towards us, I don't want my little girl listening to Promiscuous Girl and Sexy Back....kind of scary!

chris said...

Sadly I am too old for Mtv now. I too remember when the very first Mtv video played and MTV played videos all day.

coffeygirlb said...

These shows make me want to voimit. You know what the worst was, that sweet sixteen show on MTV, talk about a fucking eye-roller. I wanted to track these stupid bitches and their deluted parents down and run them over in THEIR Hummer...gag!!!!

Mom101 said...

Sing it sister!!

I can only hope that all this shit is cyclical. Like Madonna who couldn't go further in the sex world and went spiritual, I have to believe that kids will get (moderately) wholesome again and realize that those kids are just a waste of space.

If it makes you feel any better, not everyone watches LB. I've yet to see it.

CAT said...

I wonder whatever happened to MTV showing videos?

Kristin said...

I live in Laguna Beach.

& I know some of these kids... the show is a really, really, controlled and HEAVILY edited reality show.

It has caused MAJOR problems in our small town and few are happy for the attention (mostly negative) that it has focused on our community.

In these times when the line between the "Haves" and the "Have-Nots" is growing bigger and bigger, it seems like the stupidist thing in the world to draw attention to ourselves as a wealthy enclave with negligent adults... I am of the majority in our lovely city who try desperately, season after season, to NOT have Mtv return. "Hello, haters of America...we are everything you loathe."

Unfortunately, our City Council doesn't agree.

Mommy off the Record said...

Well said, Jennster! Something about that show smacks of acting though. Do you think it's really real? or could it be fake? I guess it doesn't really matter. The show is pretty shallow. (Can a show be shallow? Well, you know what I mean.) But then again, I watch Flavor of Love so I can't really talk.

creative-Type Dad (Tony) said...

When I was a kid in the 80's - loved it. Michael Jackson, New Order, "Wham", DM, videos 24 hours a day. Wow!

These days, the shows suck, the kids suck, and when they do show videos, they're the ass-shaking be-atches, hip-hop/rap ones. That noise hurts my ears!

Another reason why TV was much better when I was a 'youth'.

(Oh God, I sound like my Dad. Please shoot me now!!).

Yorksdevil said...

I have never heard of that show but I agree with your sentiments.

Yvonne said...

G'day Jennster. Jill from Diva Diaries sent me over to say hello. I liked this post. I am 30 now, and when we got a show called Home and Away start here when I was a kid I was BANNED from watching it. In fact I was not allowed to watch anything that Mum put in the "soapies" category. I hated her for it at the time as it made my life at high school miserable to be the ONLY one not up to date.

I watched it when I moved out of home and all the others I had never been allowed to see..... and my Mum was right. They are all just mindless crap and they leech the brain cells out of your skull everytime you watch them.

I thank god every day that my boys still like Bob the Builder, Thomas the Tank and ABC Kids. There's nothing at all on them I have to worry about....yet. Maybe by the time they are teens we will have gotten tv under control.

I had 5 teeth removed on Friday, so I watched mtv this morning. I turned it off in disgust when I caught my boys shaking their asses like on tv. Maybe I dont want a girl after all?

What happened to good shows like The Muppets, Fraggle Rock, Transformers, Warner Bros cartoons and a family movie every Friday and Saturday night?

And where did all the good video clips go? "Thriller" and "Smooth Criminal" are still my 2 fav clips. Pity it's all about who can wear the least amount of clothes and sing about sex now. It's gone from music to porn :( What chance do any of our kids have?

Sorry it's so long a comment. You really hit some of my nerves in what I have been discussing with other mum's I know.

carrie said...

Where are the parents? They are over at Bravo on "The Real Housewives of the OC"!!! Yes, we should worry about the influences being shoved down our kids throats because for them, it's not just tv, it's REAL. We, thank god, can differentiate between the two, that's why it's mindless entertainment for us! And, what would I do without my mindless entertainment? LOL!

Carrie

Mother said...

I can't get into the new Laguna Beach - however, I admit to watching the HILLS. I cannot however watch My Sweet Sixteen.

It drives me batty and makes me want to keep my daughter home forever so she'll never have to deal with kids like that.

crazymumma said...

Oh the world they are growing up in! Tv, advertising, marketing is just forcing all of our little ones to become so jaded...I live in fear of high school....

Jenny said...

I can't even watch those shows. It's too far from reality, and I have two young daughters who I'm going to try to raise to avoid that shit.

Aaarrgh.

ablondeblogger said...

Have you seen "The Hills," the follow-up show with Lauren? I thought she was a smart girl and I liked the way she handled Jason on Laguna.

But she is a twit on this show. Taking him back and then giving up an internship to Paris for him??!!!

And, I read recently that they're not even together anymore.

I'm sure her ass is covered with bruises for all the times she must've kicked herself over not going to Paris.

EC said...

Um, if you are wondering where the parents are in Laguna Beach, then YES you are too old to watch MTV ;)

Mommy off the Record said...

Did you see your glorious photo on Amalah's site? he he

It was kinda hard to tell but I'm pretty sure that was you in the background while she's in the foreground ready to bare her boobies. LOL

RSM said...

I dunno. 90210 was on in my day and no school was actually like that. I knew that. Didn't mean I didn't want to date Luke Perry, but come on, who doesn't know that no one looks like that? Anyway, he was like, 40 years old playing a 17 year old kid.

The media has a huge influence on all of us. That's why so many young girls, and I was one of them, have such distorted views on themselves. But, I really don't think it's anything new.

TV is entertainment. Life is nowhere near as exciting and glamorous as it is on these shows - if they made a REAL "reality" TV show, no one would watch. Why watch what you already live? It's the fantasy.

It always has been, always will be.

I just think you notice it now more because you have a kid. Our views on everything change once we pop 'em out.

No, I don't want my daughter watching Laguna Beach thinking that's the way she's supposed to be, the way that life is supposed to be. But she's going to. It's my job to help keep her grounded and make her realize that this is life, not some silly teen drama.

Karl said...

I miss the old days when Music Television actually played freaking MUSIC! I haven't watched Laguna Beach, mostly because I don't need yet ANOTHER crappy reality show to be addicted to. :)

Kevin Charnas said...

Most tv is garbage, it really is. I can't stand it. I can't get over how many channels we have and there's still nothing on.
Not only are these shows destructive, but brainwaves are literally more active when a person is sleeping than when they're watching tv.
Then add in the careless messages that are in them???

Hate it, hate it, hate it.

Angry Dad said...

I don't think its going to change. The sad bit is that reality TV means that they aren't famous for very long. You could probably count on one hand the number of "reality TV" stars who had any ongoing sense of fame. Most end up thrown on the scrap heap.

russ said...

they do have "rock the vote" which is pretty cool

but all other stuff
shit. crap. shitty crap. crap. I shat on it. crap.

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